The Helical Model part 2 – Our Galaxy is a Vortex
NEW: get the sound track! http://www.djsadhu.com/audio-video/audio-production/djsadhu-enter-the-stream-mp3-goodie/
Part II of the Helical video series is finished, after two months of research, designing, editing and rendering… it shows our path through the Milky Way.
Here are my notes on this video. It is far from perfect, and I have a lot to say about it.
== the Milky Way ==================================================
- The Milky Way itself travels through space at appr. 600 km/s (http://hypertextbook.com/facts/1999/PatriciaKong.shtml)
- The image used for texturing the Milky Way is NOT a picture of the Milky Way. There are no pictures of the outside of the Milky Way.
- There could either be a black hole or a central sun in the center of the Milky Way. I went with the texture image and made it shine.
- A complete revolution around the galaxy takes 226 million years (http://www.dailygalaxy.com/my_weblog/2007/10/hubbles-secret-.html)
- Do not confuse the Galactic Plane with the Galactic Equator: the Sun never “crosses” the Galactic Equator because the Sun is always on the Galactic Equator, by definition.
== Precession cycle ===============================================
- One precession cycle takes 25,920 years. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_embedded&v=k6_2SYWgcQI)
- Since one revolution takes 226 mln years, this would mean that there are appr. 8692 precessional cycles in one revolution. In this animation there are only 60.
== Scale & distance ==============================================
- the Sun is 109 times bigger and 333,000 times heavier than Earth. If this animation was to scale, the planets would be invisible.
- Our Solar System should be a gazillion times smaller compared to the Milky Way. If this animation was to scale, you could not see the Solar System, the Sun or any of the planets.
- The software used to create this animation is unable to work with extreme sizes and scales that are so far apart. This limited how big the biggest, and how small the smallest object could be.
== Why I left out the Photon Belt ================================
- The alledged location and size of the photon belt is unclear. Some sources say it’s vertical, others say it’s horizontal. I tried to model both, and in no way I could make it so that there was a “2,000 year pass-through”.
- In the vertical setup the band had to be very narrow (2,000 / 226,000,000 => only 0,003185838 degrees of the galactic orbit) (example of vertical band here: http://www.librarising.com/cosmology/photon.html)
- In the horizontal setup there was no 226,000,000 year orbit (example of horizontal setup here: http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/esp_cinturon_fotones.htm)
- It is widely describes as “10,000 years of darkness, 2,000 years of light” and this does not match any of the orbits I know.
- I’m NOT saying there is no photon belt, I’m just UNABLE to include it in the animation due to lack of good solid evidence.
- Worth reading: http://www.etheric.com/LaViolette/Disinformation.html
== Sound & music ==================================================
- I know there is no sound in space, but the roaller coaster effect was just too cool – think of it as internal engine noise of our space ship 
- The sound track is called “Enter The Stream” and I created it specifically for this animation.
You can listen to it on my website: http://www.djsadhu.com/audio-video/djsadhu-enter-the-stream-instrumental/
Saturday, 26. January 2013 7:53
Hi thank you that was good. Basically we move in a cloud of other stars that do the same thing. As I was watching I was thinking of the brown dwarf star that is supposedly our sister that we rotate with. What have you heard of this?
Saturday, 26. January 2013 15:32
Very nice – a picture paints a thousand words and you have put together a tome of information for your fellow human beings – Thank You!
Am I correct in thinking that our solar system is about to dive down into the galactic plane and will take 2000 years to pass through that plane?
And further, that in an electrical universe our solar system will be exposed to a higher level of energy while it passes through the galactic plane?
Saturday, 26. January 2013 19:09
Awesome work! Thanks for sharing this and for your efforts!
Sunday, 27. January 2013 0:50
@James: I have not heard of this yet, sorry.
@bronzie: Correct me if I’m wrong, but I think you mix up two ideas. The 2,000 year comes from the “photon belt” theory. This theory states that there is a cycle of “10,000 years of darkness” followed by “2,000 years of light”. After a lot of research I still could not fit this in the 3D model I made for the animation. That’s why I left it out. Now the other thing is us crossing the Galactic Plane (as shown in the video) and to my knowing this happens twice in every 26,000 year precession cycle (1x up, 1x down). So the “photon belt” is NOT the Galactic Plane.
@TnDoc: thanks, and you’re very welcome.
Sunday, 27. January 2013 4:38
Brillant…Beautiful…I am wondering, also…are we Binary??
Sunday, 27. January 2013 9:04
This is outstanding work! I am amazed by the clarity of your presentation. Your Helical model makes perfect sense. What an exciting concept that everything is on a constant journey – we continue to move toward something new. Thank you.
Sunday, 27. January 2013 10:11
Cool Stuff! See also:
http://goo.gl/EuuYL (e.g. white and black hole pair in galaxy center)
http://goo.gl/Zl5Mb (Founders on Earth History Pt. 1-10/Grand Cycle)
Monday, 28. January 2013 1:12
thanks for responding – yes, I’m probably hashing several ideas together
today I am wondering about the 26,000 year precession cycle and some related possibilities
if our solar system cycles above and below the galactic plane on a 26K year cycle, that means 13K years on either side – taking 2000 years to cross through the plane reduces the ‘above’ and ‘below’ periods to about 12K years each – doesn’t our sun have a significant cycle that is about 11,500 years long? just a coincidence?
also, is their a correlation between the expanding-earth model and passing through the galactic plane? ie, each time our solar system passes through the galactic plane it picks up enough extra energy to expand the planets
just spit-balling ideas here …
Tuesday, 29. January 2013 12:20
Really nice man. I was curious about the binary too and how that effects consciousness on earth. If the closer the sister star gets to us the level of consciousness lifts as we go through the iron age, bronze, silver and gold. I’ve heard a few different numbers for the cycle but will it fit with the polarity of the galaxy?
So above the galactic plane = higher consciousness = closest to binary star = love
Below the galactic plane = lower consciousness = further from binary star = fear
Wednesday, 30. January 2013 23:58
This is really helpful! I shared it on my FB wall. @songbird and Searyous – interesting, I’ve been wondering the same thing! In fact, I just posted something about that on my own site here: http://whatnow.serenarockey.com/
And also your observation about above vs below the galactic plane reminds me of a drawing I made about how the motion of creation is related to our experience of it. Hmmm … where did that go. I’ll post that too as soon as I find it.
Thursday, 31. January 2013 0:20
Here they are: http://whatnow.serenarockey.com/scribblings/
Thursday, 31. January 2013 14:33
@ Serena: What! It looks like it could have been the story-board of my video
Thursday, 31. January 2013 19:13
@songbird ranch I agree. The motion does suggest that we are in a binary star system. perhaps our sister start is a brown dwarf or even a black hole? BUt the vid was awesome. Great job @djsadhu.
Sunday, 3. February 2013 16:32
Thank you DjSadhu. Your Work is Great!
Giusto in questi giorni stavo leggendo un libro di Ouspensky e si parlava proprio di questo movimento stellare. Incredibile aver trovato la tua rappresentazione video da appena una settimana.
Thank you from Italy
Monday, 4. February 2013 1:22
Sono contento che il mio video significa qualcosa per te!
Tuesday, 5. February 2013 13:03
For me it means a lot. I hope that is seen by thousands of people. All the best my virtual friend.
Thank you from Italy
Tuesday, 5. February 2013 21:01
Wonderful visualization, very well crafted. What software did you use to generate this? I teach animation and I think you’ve done a *stellar* job.
Tuesday, 5. February 2013 22:36
I fumble about in 3D Max, no training.
Saturday, 9. February 2013 23:21
Beautiful. Thaks. And I am also intrigued by the idea of us orbiting a sister star. Why would we be one of the only stars in the galaxy not to have a binary partner? If you take this model of motion, as we follow in the cone created by the sun’s vortex (in the suns’s wake) then it stands to reason that we would not perceive such an orbital motion from earth. The two stars would remain equidistant, but rotate around each other (a bit like those old images of atoms whizzing round a nucleus. Consider the two circles of common radius in sacred geometry. Imagine them as two solar systems, one going in one direction following its sun, the other going the other way, always moving an orbital (circular) trajectory, locked in eternal embrace. From a distance, it would look a lot like a galaxy and if as you say, the spiral pattern is central to mature, is it not more likely that our solar system would mirror the macrocosm and the microcosm like every thing else seems to?
Tuesday, 12. February 2013 15:02
In this article did you only reference http://www.librarising.com/cosmology/photon.html for the image? Because the text there is utter rubbish.
Also I am unable to listen to the sound of the video, so I’m not sure if you are talking and explaining during it. But why does the sun move in a vortex shape perpendicular the direction of motion?
Tuesday, 12. February 2013 15:26
No talking in this video, just my music. Too bad you can’t hear it ;-(
Friday, 1. March 2013 0:45
Why does the sun move in a vortex motion around the galaxy?
The Solar system just traces a circle/ellipse around the center of the galaxy, not a spring/vortex shape.
Friday, 1. March 2013 11:53
Nice!, very very nice video!! But, apart of this nice video, the most important thing for me is the observational proofs that support your theory/model. I am not expert on galaxy
dynamics, but I am astrophysicist. Please, may
you explain me (us) the observational proofs
that support your model? May you give me some
references/articles to read about the details of your model? Thank you very much. R. Barrena.
Friday, 1. March 2013 12:31
Good day mr Barrena, and thank you for having an open mind about the subject.
The dynamics of the galaxy itself are quite the mystery. My video may or may not be accurate, it is based on any data I could find about the subject.
I also found out that there was no such animation – maybe because nobody knows for sure. I went ahead and gave it my best shot.
However I do have supporting evidence for the helical model, and the “lagging behind” of the planets.
Are you familiar with “retrograde”?
Why are the numbers 1 and 5 not in the same flat plane? This projection does not hold up in 3D!
I’m actually working on a video that shows this from different angles.
IF the left part of the image is “flat” – then why are the numbers 1 to 5 on the right not on a straight line?
Something’s off here.
Now compare the planets with a bunch of people walking around on a flat surface. No matter how they walk, their heads will always be in one horizontal plane.
If we were to take snapshots of one head, and it showed up as going UP or DOWN (like the retrograde picture) would that not prove that this person deviated from the horizontal surface?
Now IF our solar system is “flat” (with one exception, that is) it would not matter how many snapshots we took… they would all be in a single flat plane.
But we can take snapshots like the one above, showing 3D DEPTH in the loop… the retrograde loop points upwards or downwards…how can a flat theory system explain this? It can’t.
Imho the only explanation is that the orbits are not in the same plane, but lag a bit behind each other.
* Another indication is that planets are visible throughout almost the entire year – something that would be impossible in a flat system.
* Another indicator is the fact that we have “recurring comets” – at all.
Why would ANY object coming from infinite space pass through the solar system, dissappear into infinite space again, and then return to this solar system – that is not even in the same point in space ?
The only explanation is that these comets are also “trapped” in the “vortex” that is our solar system, and are part of the moving family.
* I encourage you to read the pdf written by dr Bhat – link
I just recently watched a speech by Eugenie Scott about “open minded science”, and she stated that “our model of the solar system is just a theory”
Thank you for your interest. If you have any information that could be helpful in my research, please send it!
Friday, 1. March 2013 14:37
Thanks for your explanation. As you mention above, the orbit of the SS around the galactic center is not contained in a plane. In fact, the disc of our galaxy force to our SS to describe a oscillation “up and down” respect the galaxy disc. However, the helical movement is produced by the oscillations in two perpendicular directions. The up-down oscillation around de galactic plane is proved, but a second oscillation in the radial direction is also necessary. I knew the first up-down oscillation and there is evidence of this periodic movement of the SS in the Earth (see e.g. http://www.nature.com/nature/journal/v317/n6035/abs/317338a0.html). My main question is related to the radial oscillator. Do you know any study that propose evidence supporting the radial oscillation of the SS when travel around the galaxy. Thanks. R. Barrena.
Friday, 1. March 2013 15:27
Thank you for your response.
One of the original images I used in my reserach is this one:
The image is located at http://www.biocab.org/Cosmic_Cloud-Solar_System-Milky_Way_op_784x588.jpg
The article that goes with it is located here: http://www.biocab.org/coplanarity_solar_system_and_galaxy.html
in where the three axis of the motion are summed up:
- rotation around the galactic center
- up/down 7km/s
- in/out 20km/s
“If we were observing the Solar System from outside, its apparent motion would be a helical motion around the nucleus of the galaxy”
Further sources: http://www.biocab.org/coplanarity_solar_system_and_galaxy.html#anchor_23
There may be other sources for this.
But I’m really curious to know you opinion about my retrograde questions. What are your thoughts on this issue? “Observational proof” as you stated… is working against the flat model, in my case at least.
Dj
Friday, 1. March 2013 18:08
wicked. Thanks so much for your efforts; I learned something cool today.
Friday, 1. March 2013 18:59
Question:
In this model, does the galaxy follow the same behavior through space? If so then wouldn’t the solar system ultimately be following the path described by the helio-centric model as well since it’s moving through space along another perpendicular axis? Maybe I don’t know enough about vortex motion to see it…
Friday, 1. March 2013 20:21
Reread the article you posted about the photon belt, and I think you’ll understand why it’s completely impossible for such a thing to exist.
First of all, the central point presented is based entirely on the fact that God exists, and that during Creation he defined this phenomenon. That is a legitimate form of science, after all, it is well known that on the dark side of the moon there is a large purple elephant, who in his wisdom controls all things with his infinite trunk.
Second, the behavior of a photon is not one that would even allow this to exist First of all, light can only be captured within the event horizon of a black hole. If the photon belt was inside of the event horizon of a black hole, the Earth would have been obliterated billions of years ago, since it supposed to regularly pass through it. In fact, following quantum physical equations, it’s literally impossible to get a photon into orbit, and if you are able to get a photon to orbit you most certainly can’t get them to form a single band. You’d have the entire galaxy surrounded in an oblique flattened sphere of photons, sort of like a giant ellipse. Basically, there is no such thing as a photon belt, it’s not a theory, it’s an idiot ranting on the internet.
And one final thing – Before you even start moving the actual sun around, you have to remember that planets don’t orbit on a two dimensional plane centered on the sun. The orbits of all planets constantly shift on all three axes
http://puu.sh/2aofp
Each planet has its own orbital plane and each orbital plane shifts a degree or two each year. While it does remain close to a flat orbit, that is a misconception.
Friday, 1. March 2013 21:08
Outstanding work !
Friday, 1. March 2013 22:17
Carl
Friday,1,March,2013
First of all,i want to thank you for sharing your knowlege with the public.Please,can you answer my question about possible collision of the solar system with a neutron star.
Saturday, 2. March 2013 2:30
Not quiet Bonzie… 13,000 years above and 13,000 years bellow …each with a 2,000 years of light, the photon belt, and that would mean the photon belt is the galactic plane.
Saturday, 2. March 2013 13:54
Great animation, thank you very much for your -big- work ! After have seen it, i’m thinking about the 230 billions others stars from Milky Way, which are also “helical helix” with their exoplanets..
The Milky Way is a discoid interlaced organisation of 230 billion multi-helical helix.. And there are several hundreds of billions of galaxies in the Universe …. with at least 100 000 billions of billions stars ..
So many helix… as in our body, with the DNA in our 100 000 billions of cells, and the DNA in the 100 000 billions of bacteria staying in our intestines (microbiome)…
Monday, 4. March 2013 2:09
This is an excellent animation, congratulations, and thank you. Are you aware of the Thunderbolts Project, plasma cosmology, and the concepts of the Electrical Universe?
If not, I would highly recommend:
http://www.thunderbolts.info
(Their synopsis might be a good starting point.)
The book “The Electric Sky” by Professor of electrical engineering Donald Scott.
Monday, 4. March 2013 14:56
Thanks Djsadhu. I have not more questions. In my opinion, The helical model is more convincing that the flat one. Thanks very much for you attention and share your opinion and illustrations. Rafael Barrena.
Tuesday, 5. March 2013 4:32
djsadhu #24
That is due to the difference in inclination of the orbits of Earth (7.155°) and Mars (5.65°). The observed orbits of the planets are not perfectly flat.
Thursday, 7. March 2013 23:19
Im intrigued, I love the movement, grace and order. well done that man.
Saturday, 9. March 2013 17:45
Have you perhaps read this excellent explanation by actual astronomer why this video is all wrong?
http://www.slate.com/blogs/bad_astronomy/2013/03/04/vortex_motion_viral_video_showing_sun_s_motion_through_galaxy_is_wrong.html
People should really do give it a read!
Monday, 11. March 2013 6:39
Thanks DJ.
I am not well versed in this area. I however loved the representation of the concept and the ‘feel’ of the video. Clearly one of your callings ..both in music and animation…Would love it if all metaphysics and astrophysics was explained this way…
Do keep doing these videos!
Thursday, 14. March 2013 23:58
This video is cosmological orgasm man!
Epic!
Friday, 15. March 2013 0:02
referred your video to “i fucking love science!”
Friday, 15. March 2013 12:37
sadhu , man u can acknowledge some part of phil phlait’s comments and make a even more accurate video man!, u have great animation skills..
Friday, 15. March 2013 12:52
@ Dr. Tushar – thanks, I am thinking about a follow up animation. The only problem is that it took me two months to create this one. And it’s kind of sad to see that Phil’s article, that is supposed to be all about factual corrections, triggered a disproportionate response from his audience. Most of them only remembered the word “wrong”, some were insulting and angry.
Sunday, 17. March 2013 1:06
I am so excited you made this video. It has provided me with excellent scientific visualization on the patterns we travel this universe.
Now about all this nit picking of your hard work. It is silly, indeed. These folks obviously have no idea the incredible hard work and skills required–on all levels–to execute.
Many thanks for creating this. It makes complete sense that you would need to distort the size of the sun, planets and make some choices of inclusion or exclusion to illustrate a concept.
It is all relatively speculative. It’s all relative.
In reality, we are consciousness as wavelengths in the form of matter measuring other wavelengths that tells us a distance based on their color, and perhaps their estimated age based on a theory and math we agreed on by consensus.
So, I concur that this was a most admirable execution of brain, talent and creativity. Fine work!
Wednesday, 20. March 2013 8:17
I’m very interested, but there are two things that I keep struggling with:
- If our solar system doesn’t move forward like a disk lying flat on it’s side, but like a disk tilted 90 degrees and thus pushed back into a helix, then isn’t there a huge force pushing against us, which we would’ve thought comes from the side of the disk, but which in reality comes from ahead? And if that’s the case, Won’t a great deal of calculations we make be incorrect? Then, how have we still been able to place things like curiosity on mars?
- second, the reason why the solar system would move differently from, say, the galaxy, would be because our sun has an orbit of it’s own, within that galaxy, right? Which makes our solar system a helix form, rather than a flat disk, unlike the galaxy itself, which is still shown as a flat disk. But, doesn’t the galaxy move as well? The Universe is expanding, galaxies have been known to collide with one another… They move. How do they remain flat disks?
And now that I’m thinking about this, another question comes to mind. In your video, the solar system shown orbiting the galaxy, moves in a helix as well, just like the planets moving around it’s sun. But those planets are held in the helix by a central gravity. What’s making the whole solar system circle? Is that being held in place by a central gravity, as well?
If so, what? If not, what else explains it?
I hope you’ll be able to answer these.
I just want to understand better. Great work!
Just because I’m asking so much, does’t mean that I don’t think what you say can be true. What you propose makes complete sense, it’s great
Friday, 22. March 2013 14:55
don’t get bothered about about comments. just continue doing your karma. you have nailed it in one single video. even nasa has not till date made such a vivid and condensed informative video. phil phlait , no doubt is an eminent astronomer for no good reason, but should have appreciated the effort more rather than heavily using the word ‘wrong’..
Sunday, 24. March 2013 2:09
DJ, this is Good work. It’s time science realised just how much our planet and Sun are dependent upon their passage through the Milky Way system. For instance until recently we saw a sunspot cycle which reverses polarity every 11 years. This would show in your animation if you included the spiral Birkeland Currents through which we are passing. They are effectively twisted pairs of high energy particle beams (plasma electric currents to you and me).
I suggest you make contact with the Thunderbolts team: http://www.thunderbolts.info/wp/contact-us/ who are seeking artists and lateral thinkers like yourself.
Tuesday, 2. April 2013 5:38
Excellent work, thank you sir! Makes much more sense than the isolated, static solar systems and galaxy theories. Really stimulates the mind!
Wednesday, 3. April 2013 20:38
With your accord it will be promoted on Baricada TV station! NICE WORK
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Saturday, 20. April 2013 6:22
Challenging work indeed. Thank you!
I recall reading that someone has contended that, based upon this work, no space probe can ever leave the solar system. I do not understand the reasoning. Can you clarify please? Thanks.
Saturday, 20. April 2013 15:06
The idea is that just like in every other “vortex”, things will be caught in it, and it should be hard to escape from it.
The fact that Pioneer was WAY off relative to NASA’s calculations, and that Voyager “should” have left our solar system about a year ago but didn’t (“could be years”)… seem to support this idea.
Wednesday, 8. May 2013 23:38
If you watch santos bonacci, He explains that we are in a binary with Siris, our solar systems sister star which would mean that we are dancing with it, in this helix. DNA ring a bell, double helix? Anyways there is a research instiute and a book “the lost star” by Walter Cruttenden. PLEASE take a look into that and get back to me. Factoring in Siris to this is huge!!!